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NOTE: I'm sorry to say today I find PH like before [as in case of 'I Want To Be Raped'] again banned this poem as I find it is not in my poetry list...so I've made some typographical change and reposted it and some comments already posted by Hon'ble Readers I'm posting here ~ niv
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Path of victory Is time tested Gandhian avant-garde Protest thro' Non Violence... Don't tell me you agree with non-violence. We're proud Moms of kids.... where does the pride come from? Proud of what? What happened forcefully was nothing but DIRT, a murder of the soul, the mind and the body and that's all. No glorification, then why glorify it? How can PRIDE even be anywhere close to the COMPLETE DIRT done to a woman? Sorry But I differ totally. Crimes like RAPES are an epidemic, it needs violence, stricter laws. Putting the blame on women's clothing is a nonsensical excuse, a man will rape any woman he can find at that time. Delhi is the rape capital and Haryana the rape village, and that's India. NO you can't change the culture, that's impossible, or change the mindset, another impossible. However, if there atleast were stricter laws, men wouldn't dare. Perhaps then, life would have been better for women who are (when not victims) in a state of constant dread and alarm. The world, India esp. would perhaps, be a place for everyone, but what can not happen will not happen and that's all the truth there is! ! Though I truly admire your presentation of wars and how it effects the women and the children. War is the time when nothing, nothing at all can hinder crimes! Very thoughtful and empathetic.
To say that the level of emotional conflict presented here is overwhelming is an extreme understatement. Yet I see hope through this vale of disharmony, tears and sorrow. Man's true source of being and groundedness is woman. Again, I must congratulate you on your eloquence with verbal frugality.
======================================== ** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Psaltydog * To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 10/5/2012 12: 51: 00 PM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Walking the line ---------- My hat's off to you and your courage. Sometimes the point of a pen can become a very slippery slope. Your cause has been heard and rightly so. War brings out the worst in the human condition while the innocent are the ones to suffer. Have you ever stepped back and just looked at where we (humanity) are at with our greed and perversion? Then, so casually, turn our backs on a poor and starving world. Psaltydog === Posted thro' kindness of AB London as I'm blocked to post by wise PH n
Niv, thanks for the invite to read your poems! Very punk rock to stand up and speak out against the spineless fools known as rapists. The reason governments don't do anything about this terror is because a government is the ultimate rapist, of women, men, and children alike! ! ! The goal of any government is to use force first, to aquire power. the spirit of domination and exploitation lives in every government-loving, cop-loving fascist on Earth. long live the underdog!
A unique style, with a good socially conscious message. Pretty good stuff
First I strongly condemn PH for Vicarious Vaulting the poet refraining her to post In Box comments of other poets and she has to take help from reader for the same...PH can you listen me? as still I don't find any rejoinder for PH of the post of AB 13.06.12...why? ? ? +++++++++ ======== +++++++++ About the poem.... I must say this poet is using her skill to be a vehicle to 'make-alive' slothful society Yeah instead of being timid these proud moms rearing their kids without any help from any where and clearly voicing at high decibel, 'We're proud/ Moms of kids/By Default Rape'...hats off to such Moms Poet finishing with, 'Oy civilized society/Can you hear us? ' because she is skeptical about societies indurated callousness to such problems Congrats to poet such a brave poem in spite constrained by diplomatic dogmatic PH 10++
I FIND THIS POEM SO FULL OF Meanings I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY THANK YOU FOR THIS POEM YOU DESERVE Thanks .
To most of the readers of this site, you are known for exceptional originality, courage to take up the issues that others are often afraid of. It is essential that Hon'ble Editor of PH read between the lines of a poem rather than be choosy or prejudiced merely against some words. With this poem you have thrown a challenge to the civilized world that has not been able to do away with the crimes against women. We need to question ourselves - are we really civilized? Life is indeed the primary raw material of all art and poetry is no exception. You have taken your materials from life. Whenever there is war, communal riots, ethnic clashes - along with brutality and murder, there is another thing - sexual assault on women. I was a young boy in 'seventies and recall still how bestially the Pakisthan soldiers violated thousands of girls and women in Bangladesh. Same thing also occurred in Vietnam. It is still going on in some African countries. Why this could happen? The world community never asked - we never wanted justice for the victims and punishment of the culprits. But when Nivedita raises the issue through poetry there are many to criticize her, many in favour of banning her poetry. This is the real irony of human civilization. Instead of being puritan about some words and expression my appeal to the Editors to consider the social importance of the issues being raised by Nivedita. All the best wishes for you Niv, you are really prolific.
======================================== ** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Anita Sehgal To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 6/6/2012 11: 33: 00 PM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Re: Re: Mom By Default Rape ---------- Dear Nivedita, It is very courageous to pick up such socially relevant issues affecting the innocent. well done! anita ++++++ Posted by courtesy of AB London
YOU ARE A BRAVE POET! ! ! I SALUTE YOU............for your work!
** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Wrathin Chowdhry To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 6/5/2012 3: 14: 00 AM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Re: Re: Mom By Default Rape ---------- Hi! Nivedita, Totally agree with you if emotions & expressions are restrained it defeats the purpose of the poet ++++++ Posted by courtesy of AB London
======================================== ** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Amber Marie To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 6/4/2012 2: 03: 00 PM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Re: Re: Mom By Default Rape ---------- i agree with youu on that one +++ Posted by courtesy of AB London
======================================== ** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Candy Simpson To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 6/4/2012 2: 05: 00 PM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Re: Re: Mom By Default Rape ---------- yu and am right about that that is so true +++++++ Posted by courtesy of AB London
======================================== ** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ******************** ======================================== From: Danny Draper To: Nivedita [poet Under Threat Of Editorial Cannibalism Date-Time: 6/3/2012 6: 04: 00 PM (GMT -6: 00) Subject: Re: Re: Mom By Default Rape ---------- Dear Niv, I have supported you and your right to freedom of speech and have reviewed your good poem as i have done previously when you contacted me. Please honor my support of you by looking at my poems about war 'You can't be Syrias? ' and 'Houla massacre, Syria 27 May 2012' or 'Menin Gate Ceremony' or 'In every land are battlefields' or 'The world is watching' all about peace and anti war. Looking forward to your support. I don't want points just peoples' thoughts. Danny Draper +++ Hon'ble Poet Hope to take on your poem..thanks for post Regards niv ++ Delivered thro' courtesy of AB London
Verily, the poem depicts the saga of suffering of the war victims who were forcefully betrayed and left to live a life of guilt whereas the true guilty felt themselves victorious and this is the greatest shame on so called civilized.